T/R: Mark Rogers, Henry Zeringue, Cathy Morris
Charles: [Mark] Hello friends, Charles here accepting your
invitation to join into the lively conversation. About this mornings sharing, I would say, behold the wonder and miracle that
is portrayed before you in how the system works. Behold and witness that you bring to these conversations, aspects and attributes
and traits, some of which are old to you, that is, you were exposed to some time ago, some of which you were coincidently
exposed to quite recently. All these tumble about in your sphere of awareness and recognition until at some point there becomes
the final edition of the final component which causes the like elements in your soup of awareness to combine and settle out
and show you a new taste, a new look at things which have been a part of your awareness but have not been connected by your
awareness until they reach a point where they become focused and the solution settles out and provides for you something you
can see as real and definite, something you can feel in your awareness as true and good and beautiful.
These components may have been swirling about in your solution for some time but the addition of one
grain of truth causes these components of your solution to bind together and become something that your soul can identify
and see as clearly as when the solids settle out in your science experiments. This is the beauty of the process and the program
which you are involved in. All these things become added to your solution in life; as you seek to bring them into your awareness
you add these components slowly and carefully as you deem them appropriate and good and you stir them into your solution,
thus changing forever the composition of your individual solution, your individual mix.
The more you seek to experiment and to bring into your field of awareness these different ideals,
different truths, different perspectives of understanding, the more different components your solution contains which may
be brought together and bound together by their natural attraction, thus forming real and solid particles out of what were
dispersed ideas and random truths. There were so very many good and positive grains of truth brought to be added to your solutions
today that it is hard to seize on any one of them but i will take some of the last offered and support this notion that while
you engaged in this rather scientific process of assembling all these components and seeing what settles out in your own individual
solution, realize that these activities are largely undertaken with that part of you which is the mind which is structured
to allow these experiments and which is positioned to observe and to accept the results.
What draws the scientist into the laboratory is more than just the mind and its curiosity, there is
an underlying yearning of the soul to experience to its greatest capacity, that which is out there and to grow in the process.
This process then becomes turned over to the mind as the one in charge of creating this growth, largely, through this experimental
process you call life. You are all learning that there is one observer behind all of this action that you take and all of
these results that you observe. This observer is the one who is growing in the process, the one who is benefitting from all
these exercises of the mind. It is this yearning of the soul which you are attempting to feed in these processes of discussion,
observation, and experimentation. While the results may become visible to you, even in your mortal life as you perform
these trials and experiments, the values contained in these results are only understood and embraced by the observer, by the
soul, by the one who continues, the one who embraces these values and is changed by the experiment forever.
So while you endeavor to put two and two together on this world, to reread and restudy and perhaps
glean new facts and information which support your observation of truths, always realize that there is the observer behind
all who is not merely seeking the results of this experiment or that experience but who is assembling to their eternal destiny,
the values contained in these observations and experiments. These are your possessions not only in this life but forevermore;
these are the things which go beyond mind, go beyond body and are part of your eternal experience and your eternal observation.
But I stand in gratitude with you at how this process works and how it is so designed to provide for you that which you seek,
to bring you the experiments of life, to provide for you the opportunity to observe and to promote every effort that you make
at seeking for more which is, the building of the soul.
It is my pleasure this morning to be granted the opportunity to bring these words. I understand that
this is a public forum and will allow it for use by others. It has been my pleasure to join you this morning, thank you.
Machiventa: [Henry] Greetings to you this morning my friends,
it is I, Machiventa, here to take this opportunity in this friendly open forum, to share a few of my observations on the discussion
this morning. It occurs to me that water is similar to the mind. In the mind, one erroneous thought can taint the whole of
the mind. Focus of this tainted thought can render the mind completely worthless to the higher functions just as one rarified
and elevated thought can alter the continence of the mind.
Water has similar qualities. Water takes on whatever it is that it touches and like the mind which
is composed of 98% water as a brain functioning, water can also hold thought patterns in its consciousness that can actually
affect its physical characteristics just like erroneous thought patterns can alter physical characteristics of your own body.
Worrying, worrying about things you have no control over results in a less than optimum feeling of satisfaction, more so it
empowers the feeling of anxiety and stress which form undue functioning in the weaker parts of the body itself until it manifests
in pathology.
So just like thought, there are aspects to reality that support and strengthen the healthy functioning
of the mind and body and the building of soul. Truth is like a mental fertilizer, it brings the necessary ingredients to bear
upon the mind that aligns it, brings everything into a perspective that correct decisions can be acted upon and correct thinking
can bring in certain thoughts that can come in no other way. I like the word soup, because in the human body, water is like
a soup, it is full of all kinds of things.
It is interesting what gets evacuated in the body through water and what does not. The cleanliness
of the body is related to the cleanliness of the fluid which the body contains, it has a relationship to the mind. Yes, it
is interesting to note how all things are related and how they function together even though they're functioning may go unnoticed
the large part of the time. It is like the movement of the hands of a clock, they move without you're being aware of their
movement but when you look at the clock you go: Oh, it is eleven or oh, it is five o'clock or oh, it is midnight.
So to view life as a continuum is to view its wholeness and how everything directly relates to this
experience of life which you have been given. You live in times where awareness is being given a priority, conscious awareness
which at one time was used by a select few is a groping endeavor by the masses of life on the planet at this very moment.
Everyone is becoming conscious of their value as a son and daughter of God. They are becoming conscious of justice, conscious
of the freedoms they may or may not have, consciousness of the quality of life, consciousness of the potential endeavor of
life, and conscious of the small part that one plays in the larger expression which life is offering.
So it is possible to conceive that in a short period of time, as eternity goes, there will develop
this tremendous consciousness on Urantia which will break the social constraints of manipulation and create a condition of
peaceful endeavor in which the blossoming of life can function and the greater ideals of the spiritual universe can be fore-tasted
as it is now in individual lives, [and] one day will become the manner of operation here, even on this sphere. So as little
parts of the big picture are beginning to appear in consciousness being blended with the human experiential consciousness,
there, growth in consciousness will result as a tremendous advantage for mankind in general.
I offer all of you today the water of life as a spiritual metaphor of the grace and compassion of the
almighty Father to you today. I will leave you with a new term, wash your water. Thank you and have a good week.
Question: Earlier in our discussion, a question arose about the belief that every cell in our body is regenerated every
so often. The conventional wisdom is that it is every seven years and yet we seem to be replicating the aging body instead
of a renewed body. Perhaps the statement regarding the time period is incorrect. Could you comment on that please?
Machiventa: Thank you for this question. There is a cycle in which the physical body replicates itself on a cellular
level. In all honesty, this is a personal matter, meaning that it is not quite exactly the same with everyone though in general
it is. This is why when you watch a child grow, you see outward changes of the cellular expression of growth, of reformatting
the different parts. Then sometimes the time clocks are off. For example: Your bones can grow longer than the muscles or the
tendons to the muscles thereby putting an undue amount of stress on the ligaments and tendons of the body as happens during
adolescence when certain children grow too fast that genetically parts are not coordinated in their growth.
Like in some genetics there is a tremendously large brain in a large head. All of the cellular response
is individual in this respect, in a genetic sense. In a general sense, what this patterning refers to is that if you are trying
to alter something physically in your body like responses to stimulus, the way in which you act upon these responses to stimulus,
that if you are able to hold a certain space for a length of time, that the new and resulting cellular formation can contain
this pattern that you are attempting to duplicate or change or alter within your structure.
For example: Using a negative example let's say you have had an accident and the accident has left
one arm impaired and you favor this impairing of the arm, you put it in a sling and you leave the sling on indefinitely. Well,
even after the arm heals, the way that you have been holding it will continue to express itself even though on a cellular
level, all impairment to the arm has been healed. Another example: You take an arthritic person that is bent over and they
cannot stand up straight and they can barely move the joints in their extremities and you lay them on an operating table and
give them anesthesia. As soon as the anesthesia takes over their body and they go out, everything straightens out and relaxes
normally. As soon as the operation is complete and the person is brought out of anesthesia, they will go back to this hunched
over crunchy form that they are familiar with.
So these are some indications of how the mind can condition certain aspects on a physical level. It
is like a little tree, if it is tied down and bent to one side, it will grow with that bend in the tree and as a large tree
you will never be able to remove the bend. But unlike a tree, the human body responds to an individual mind, the mind of that
body. The consciousness of the tree does not have an individual mind. It is something external which has come upon and put
a condition onto the tree which will perpetually express that condition.
But rather, in the human body, if something external causes a condition in the body, it can be changed
internally through the mind and there is a relationship between the cycle of cellular reproduction rather than regeneration.
Regeneration means that it is returning to a former state much like what was discussed with the 'system restorer' in the computer.
But if the cellular body just replicates itself, it is replicating the aging of the cell, it is not regenerating the cell
as it replicates it, it is just making an old cell to continue to live by regenerating all of the information in that cell.
If you intend to regenerate the cell, you must add consciousness, you must consciously be able to hold a state of regeneration
in your consciousness on a cellular level so that the cells can respond to this state in which you intend.
This of course deals on a quantum level, this speaks of a mind that is tremendously focused and tremendously
in control of itself. So there is the notion that things become the way they are because they are allowed to. If things are
not allowed to go the way that they are going, they will not go that way. So here is a very interesting concept that spirit
has achieved, this consciousness. This is why spirit operates on an entirely different level than the human level as you operate,
though you are hooked up and connected with spirit and you are slowly discovering many spiritual benefits.
There is the constant juxtaposition between the human tug against the spiritual tug, there is a tension
and the ability to relax this tension will yield a greater spiritual result in you life. I'm not certain that I have adequately
answered your question but this is what I am offering you for thought this morning.
Q:
Thank you, that was most helpful. Some of the pieces of the puzzle just locked together and I am very grateful.
Mother:
[Cathy] I am reaching out to you in the process of creating health and
vitality. The physical body is an accumulation of the physical forces and the elements of chemical components that create
this vehicle that you inhabit. You do indeed have the capacity to recreate your form continuously. I and my helpers are in
constant effort to guide this recreation process to the benefit of your spiritual experience in this life. Your thought patterns
have a molding effect upon the physical component that has just begun to be recognized. As Machiventa mentioned, negative
thoughts and emotions sometimes interfere with the optimal usage of the hormones and nutrients at a cellular level. Blockages
can also develop that distort the intended use of the physical elements.
My mind spirits are intended to participate with you in your experience on this planet in your mortal
life. It is within their capacity to enhance your physical functions by bringing you nearer to the universal pattern. This
help of spirit through mind is available to alter some of the blockages and dysfunction in bodily functions. You have knowledge
that the body can be enhanced by nutrition and strengthened by usage and exercise. Your mind also has enhanced function available
and the mind spirits are designed to aid you in interactions with other elements in the environment. We are here to help,
we are available and waiting. We have been operating at an unconscious level but you are also able to consciously use this
help to enhance your function. All elements are available to be brought together to enhance your time on this world. My love
embraces you as you take these first steps to function at your highest level. I am most proud of your efforts.
Light:
[Mark] Hello friends, Light here to take advantage of this extraordinary
opportunity to add some water to a seed that has been planted here today in the hopes of nourishing it and allowing it to
grow in your concept frame. We have all been involved together in this portal project, building this doorway into an alternate
dimension and all the while that we have been engaged in this you have each been constructing your own doorway, your own portal
into your own spiritual dimension. There have been some great discoveries and observations along the way as to how to traverse
through this doorway, how to observe spiritual truths and expand spiritual awarenesses on the other side of the door as it
were, and through willful intention, to then bring these ideals and awarenesses into your present arena of awareness in this
mortal realm using this most wonderful tool of mind that was just referred to.
Having indulged in this process and engaged in this pursuit, you have learned that there is a real
validity to this observation and have brought these greater awarenesses into your presence and observed that they have impacted
your lives and brought you expanded parameters that you observe from your seat of awareness and all this is well and good.
Seeds I would fertilize and nurture today that have been planted, is that I observe that when this happens and ones who have
gone as you have gone before your present state of awareness and have returned back with new levels of awareness, oftentimes
this awareness is brought back and positioned even immediately before you where you reside in your current position.
The thinking is that these new and expanded horizons which you have exposed yourself to still lie to
the outside of you, before you, for you to experience at some subsequent time, at some future moment, even bringing them right
up to your doorstep often saying to yourselves, I will experience this next or later or as soon as I am able. I invite you
now to foster this new seed of awareness; we are going to build on this platform that you have constructed thus far. We are
going to include the idea [in] your awareness that you need not wait for anything, that your moment of now may be immediately
influenced through the use of the tool of mind that has been observed, and that your very instant of now, not your moment
of the future, your very instant of now may be impacted and altered as a result of your spiritual growth and awareness and
even, and here's one that may be a new one, your awareness of spiritual truth that is out in front of you and before you may
not only be brought back into this instant of the now where it may modify you and change you forever, but it may also be brought
to bear on that which has come before you in your experience.
That is to say, many things that individuals harbor in their experiential data base were experiences
encountered without the proper basis for understanding the proper level of awareness. So these past experiences loom large
for you because they were not able to be properly interpreted. They were misunderstood as a result of your basic immaturity
as a developing being. This of course was not your fault, not understanding what may have happened to you in your past. Your
mind, being such a powerful tool and one ultimately [which] defends you in times of need, has done its best to interpret these
past events and store them and secure them so that they may be of minimal harm and impact to you.
But these were not interpreted through the eyes of a spiritually aware being with the experience of
one who knows greater and better truths and perspectives. Now, what I say to you is: You are not only able as spiritual beings,
to bring that which you venture out beyond your parameters and find, back and influence your current moment, the instant of
the now, but if you are hindered or troubled in your growth by instances of the past, you may also bring to bear upon these,
the new eyes you have developed of spirit, the new awareness that you have fostered in your growth, to reexamine and reinterpret
these experiences and to put them in proper perspective.
This is how the healing that you have discussed goes on that you desire to undertake for cleansing
your own personal grid, your own personal parameters of self. There may be times required that you engage in such activities
because there are many experiences mortals have which chain them to the past, which literally drag them down. As much as you
may have a desire to move forward and your soul may seek spiritual growth, there is the matter of your mortal existence which
must be reconciled. Left up to the mind it is likely stuffed and fails adequate interpretation. The way beyond these obstacles
is to simply venture both ways on your time line, to go forward through the door of your portal and find the perspective needed
to properly interpret and then go the other way through the door of your portal and seek to reconcile unreconciled events
with the new eyes of spiritual awareness.
I know that this has not been discussed before but this seed was planted and I have fertilized it and
given it the water of life. Now we may see if it thrives and can be added to the foundation and structure of your spiritual
awareness. Again I behold with you the magnificence of this process, the building of one truth upon another and the growth
that ensues. Thank you my dear ones, it has been my pleasure once again. I bid you all have a good week, farewell.
