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Special Session #13 – Reply to questions from another group – Jun. 11, 2010 TR: Daniel
Raphael
Moderator: Vicki Vanderheyden
Topics:
Unification of diverse global groups
Emotional reactions to NOCO #117
Stasis
The “old matrix infrastructure” or race consciousness
Identifying values, beliefs and expectations
The irony of stasis vs. evolutionary approach
The attrition of natural resources
Adaptation to change
The way of God
Wisdom is gained through the experience of making choices
The role of UFO’s and ET’s in our rehabilitation
Why does Monjoronson not speak of Esu?
Why does Monjoronson not stay in Esu’s headquarters?
Melchizedekian schools
Daniel’s dilemma
Monjoronson’s name when he incarnates Vicki: Dear Father, as we find ourselves on the brink of much change and suspended
once again in unknown waters, we ask that you encircuit us with your Divine Truth and Light. Though we may be challenged
by the diversity of our beliefs, we ask that each individual be assisted in the discernment process, as we seek validation
and guidance within. As our Magisterial Son, Monjoronson,
unfolds for us a picture of what to expect in the immediate future, as he outlines the needs for his impending incarnation,
and then identifies possibilities for our co-creative roles, we pray that many will find the courage and strength to respond
to his calling, and contribute in a unified effort to his mission of rehabilitation on our planet, and in so doing, we express
our humble gratitude for the efforts of Christ Michael, Nebadonia, Monjoronson, Machiventa and all other unseen helpers who
assist us in this process. Amen. Vicki: Good morning, Monjoronson. MONJORONSON: Good morning, my dear
children. Vicki: As I understand it, today’s
session is designed to answer questions presented by a group of brothers and sisters that are somewhat independent of the
Urantia Movement, and in some cases, have some very different impressions of future events. It appears that part
of your work and ours, will be to clarify and in turn unify diverse groups around the world, so that we can establish some
common ground of understanding. Is that correct? MONJORONSON: Yes, this is correct;
this is what we are striving to do as we move ahead in time. We will need to gather
those who are like-thinking into our group and assist all in being consistent in our language. Vicki: Some of these questions,
Monjoronson, may have been answered in previous sessions, however, to maintain the integrity of the question being asked,
wherever I can, I will begin by asking the primary questions as they were presented and follow through with additional questions
or discussions as needed, or as they arise. Is that acceptable to
you, Monjoronson? MONJORONSON: Very much so. Thank you. Emotional reactions to NOCO #117 Vicki: First let me say that
these questions and concerns surfaced after these individuals read the NOCO #117 transmission. They described their
reaction to this piece as “discouraging,” “disappointing,” and felt it did not contain much hope or
inspiring energy, nor did it align with some of their beliefs of future occurrences. Do you wish to comment
on this part first, or shall we move to the specific questions? [Reference location for
NOCO #117 transcript: http://www.tmarchives.com/transcript_frames.php?tid=5314 ] MONJORONSON: Please move to the specific
questions. We will address this as you move
along. Vicki: One of the first questions
that they asked had to do with the concept of “stasis.” They said, “Why
does Monjoronson never mention the “stasis” as an important instrument for propelling human evolution, and for
the cleansing of humanity and Urantia herself, as we think we must also consider the well-being of our planet.” There were times when
you talked about the fact that some of us anticipate something that is going to create an instant, collective consciousness
and you have encouraged us not to think that way. So in filling in those
pieces that I have found in statements you have made before about stasis, would you like to comment on this? MONJORONSON: Yes, definitely. Stasis as a global program is one that is optional and which has been considered. The revelation of that program was to an individual who made that widespread, and gave hope
to those who wish to see this type of program occur. Stasis is a program that
we have felt would not work well for the co-creative and experiential development of wisdom in your population. It is most desirable that individuals have the experience of evolutionary and progressive change,
and that they are responsible, co-creative partners in the decision-making to have that occur. We have always had these
programs in mind; there is an agenda of programs that could be installed, some of which are more remarkable than the program
of stasis. Christ Michael has said that he wishes
Urantia to be a world of experiential and developmental and evolutionary change, the total experience of which would provide
a model for other worlds and groups of worlds who are in or could be in rebellion. There is a universal
and infinite contribution from this [evolutionary process] which is far past most of all of your thoughts, and that is
to God the Supreme, the cumulative experiential wisdom of the universe. Stasis is a program that
has been accepted by many groups around the world as a wonderful option to the progress of this world. We do not wish to promote that, as it does not contribute to the welfare of those souls who
are here, and the option of those souls who may yet make decisions to opt for the highest standard of the universe that is
the ascendant career of contribution and love. Vicki: That confirms my insights
that it is an option in the toolbox, but not the one we see now, and not the one that Christ Michael has chosen for us. I’d like to move
on to another question here, that is somewhat tied to this concept of stasis from our friends. It has to do with what
they call an “old matrix infrastructure,” that is apparently entangled with much of the corruption that we see
in our world today. There appears to be some confusion
regarding what our friends call this “old matrix infrastructure.” It is tied to their beliefs
that stasis will just remove this infrastructure, and we will start with something fresh. Can you comment on that? MONJORONSON: Most certainly. All of you will have differences of language, though if you are to examine the foundation, or
the operational definition of your words, you would find you have much in common. The matrix to which these
individuals refer to, is what we might call, “the race consciousness, human consciousness,” which includes all
forms of corruption, corruptive thinking patterns, as well as those which are in alignment with the universe. Because of the long duration of the quarantine on this planet, and its absence from the healing
circuits of love of the universe, your world has developed a very strong matrix of race consciousness that works against the
progressive good of your world and its evolution towards the days of light and life. The language concepts
that you have used among you are very similar, though you do not recognize the underlying definition of these words. As all of your various groups come together, it is important that you validate your values,
and then your beliefs, and then your expectations. Going backwards, you
would find that you have an expectation for healing of this world—this is common to all of you. One group has the belief that this will be done instantaneously through a process of stasis,
while the other group has the belief that it will be done through developmental and evolutionary processes, for the gathering
of great wisdom and knowledge and experience. Underlying all of this
is the continuation of life, that there would be growth, and that everyone would be treated and see the world equally in the
future, as it is sustained into the indefinite and infinite future. This matrix is one that
we will bring about consciously, co-creatively with you; and you, through the projection your consciousness of love by yourself
and in groups with others, can and will heal this world. You, through your consciousness,
already have made a tremendous difference though it is not measurable by you. We have seen the course
of your world in the past, without this influence by yourselves and your world would be much darker than it is now. You who have held this consciousness, and those of you who have come on line to hold this consciousness
of Divine Order and Divine Development and of love of your world, will have made a tremendous difference. We ask all of you who have similar values and expectations for the future, [to] look to
your beliefs and do not become too strong in upholding them in opposition to others, for you will find eventually that you
have far, far more in common than you have in differences. Vicki: May I comment on this,
or ask a clarifying question? (Certainly.) So basically, Monjoronson, what you are asking us to do—like you have with the sustainability
model that you have given us—is to identify our values, and let those values be our unifying piece, and then, in identifying
those values, we define our beliefs, and from there, we then look at our practices to see if they align with our values. Is that correct? MONJORONSON: Exactly so; yes, it is
for those who hold that this will be [a] developmental and evolutionary process, you know that your diligence and the utmost
of your energy is required every day to apply your love to your world. We are not saying that
those who hold to stasis would not do this, though there is often a tendency of human mortals to wait for the good times to
heal all these problems, and not provide due diligence of the application of love, through the projection of their consciousness,
into the world around them, and to practice this in their everyday lives as they interact with others. You are requested not to withhold all the good that you could possibly project onto your world
now. If stasis were to occur, [the act
of stasis] would actually be delayed because you had not applied yourself. And were you to believe
in a developmental, evolutionarily uplifted world, you would make this occur more quickly. It is an irony of sorts,
and we wish to remove this irony from your belief systems. Vicki: It’s kind of like
putting all of our hopes into a futuristic basket, and not doing the work that needs to be done now. Is that correct? MONJORONSON: That would be a worst-case
scenario, yes. Wishful thinking does not heal an
injury; if you have a broken bone, you will need the assistance of others, besides your prayers, to heal that. You must apply yourselves to your world as you can. Vicki: I’m going to have
to pull away from the actual wording here, to tie this together. The impression I received
in reading these questions and comments from this group is that they feel in some areas that we are ready for things that
you said in NOCO #117, would ‘not’ occur. One particular concern
was over the use of oil, as opposed to bringing on the zero-point energy resources, that some are familiar with and have actually
developed technologically. We have talked about
zero-point energy within our sessions for quite awhile, and from what I understand, it’s not [that] the technology is
not developed or ready, but it has more to do with the unstable and often greedy atmosphere on our planet that does not allow
for the implementation of a safe and free application of its use. Am I correct in this? Is this just a timing issue we are talking about? MONJORONSON: Yes, it is a timing issue. As I said in NOCO #117, oil will continue to be used. As society needs to adapt
to an evolving world, the resources of oil and other natural resources will decline. There must not be a sudden
sociological and civilizational change on your world, for this throws people into chaos, and many societies disintegrate due
to that. You will live through the decrease
of the use of oil and other natural resources, naturally, through the attrition of those resources. Your societies will become used to that, they will develop new technologies to take their place,
and these will become tremendous assets for your population. Likewise, there are no
scenarios of wishful thinking that we have in hand that will resolve the overpopulation of the world. Through the decrease of natural resources, through the increase of natural calamities, there
will be a decrease in population. These are all natural
processes, which must expire themselves. You live on a world,
as [an] example of other millions of worlds, which go through very similar processes. It would be our wish
that you had access to the reflectivity process, to see the history of other worlds that have gone through these natural developments
to understand how and what your world will become through this process. Suddenly switching from
oil based energy systems to a zero-point energy system would throw your world into chaos. Even were you to be in
a state of stasis, you would be in awe, wonderment and tremendous confusion when you returned to find that there was no more
oil available for your use. These things are done
gradually for the health and welfare of the human psyche, as a collective. Your human race has a
mentality of its own, and now at this time a rapacious appetite for all the resources of Mother Nature, of Gaia, of Earth,
your home, your Mother to you. You must amend yourselves
and your beliefs about your world, slowly, though we wish that many of you—billions of you—would come to embrace
your earth with the same passion [with which] we love her. These changes are a natural
development, not instantaneous. The development to adapt
to this takes tremendous courage on your part; we are talking about courage expressed by the best of the ancient gods of Rome
and Greece; the very best of their strengths, the very best of their powers. You are going to go through
this naturally. We reveal these things
because we want to be forthright, authentic and honest with you. You do not live in a
regime of love that fabricates fairytales to make you feel better, and then as you grow older, you become disappointed, disillusioned,
and spiteful of the God that created this world and this universe. Your world did not come
into existence instantaneously and it will not exit instantaneously as well, but through the slow developmental and evolutionary
growth that is natural to the universe. Vicki: And so this would also
explain why you told us in NOCO #117, that the stock market would continue, and we were also told that there would still be
some war, which was very hard for this group to accept. Am I correct about that? MONJORONSON: Yes, you are correct. Let us take the example of war: When I arrive and am
in bodily form on your world, this will not presage the exit or demise of those who hate God, those who cause war, those who
create murder and crime. Christ Michael, God,
myself will not destroy these people. This is not the way of
God. The way of God is love, and that is through the development
and the evolution of wisdom and grace through time. To bring your world into
peace instantaneously—universal, global peace—would mean that many individuals will have their ‘will’
changed, without their permission. As you know, your ‘will’
is sovereign. The decisions you make
are marked in the history of the universe in all time; they are there forever. Your ‘will’
decisions made by your choice, by your ‘will,’ are forever durable. Your ‘will’
will never be overcome by anyone, save/except yourself. To have instantaneous
peace on your world would mean that God, Christ Michael, myself and Machiventa would violate the ‘will’ of millions
upon millions of people on this planet, who wish to do evil, who wish to perpetuate sin, who wish to cause war and hurt and
kill others. We will not do that, as this would
be a violation of the very tenets which uphold the endurance of the universe, its very creation. Likewise, peace will
not be made instantaneously, but through the change of minds of individuals, who will then ‘will’ to love others,
graciously and generously and benevolently, from the sincere authentic, genuine decisions that they have made, and not against
their ‘will.’ Yes, the stock market
will continue; it will have had its cataclysmic ups and downs, which will continue in the future until there is a joint waking
up of reasoning of investors to desire a sustainable economy, globally, that sustains growth and returns, rather than forfeiting
that growth and returns through the upheaval of the global market. This is a learned process. The wisdom and experience of a civilization is not learned easily; it is done day-by-day, decision-
by- decision and the conscious changing of choices of options for the future. I am sorry for you who
are disappointed that there is no “Candyland” in heaven. The way to infinite life
is step-by-step, decision-by-decision, day-by-day, within the context of your societies, within the context of your world. It is most unfortunate that on Urantia, on earth, your decisions, your lives are most, most, most difficult, compared
to those lives and civilizations on other planets. You have the unfortunate
opportunity to live on a world where much experience will be had by you. Make your decisions well,
make your choices well for yourself to live in peace and abundance, and this is available to you now, through alignment with
the energy course of the universe, which provides only abundance and only good through the use of your free will. Vicki: Thank you, Monjoronson. And they mentioned something else that we’ve touched on in our other sessions, but again
I think we came to different conclusions. They see the UFO’s
and ET’s playing an active role in our rehabilitation. In fact, some consider
being not of Urantia origin themselves, and feel that Starfleet will play a role, so they were really troubled with that comment
that your presence would be similar to how UFO’s and ET’s are handled today. There is some confusion
for me in understanding this logic. Do you wish to comment
on this? MONJORONSON: Yes, I do. We affirm that ET’s and UFO’s are involved in your world. They are obligated to abide by the rules of the universe, not to abridge your will. The decisions you make are your decisions; no one, not even the ET’s will change your
mind, though they have the capacity to do so. Their technologies are
far, far advanced of yours and even to the degree of mind manipulation by some species. Yes, they have been involved
in your world, and they have been active in the promulgation or maintenance of peace. They have done so through
their interference with the tools of war, which you have at your disposal and which some have used. You have instances where there is inexplicably a malfunction of a nuclear device to explode
in space, or on the surface of the moon. There are instances where
rockets have failed and there has been no explanation for this. Yes, they have been involved
in this; yes, they have our support, and yes we affirm that they have done good for your world. This is not abridging
your decisions; this is simply interfering with the course of a material object through your atmosphere and into space. They will not be involved in car accidents for people who make bad decisions; they are not part
of a conspiracy; they are here to assist in the mega-decisions that affect the outcome and direction of your world. You have much to be thankful for, for what has ‘not’ occurred. Where they are involved are the—what you see as omissions of completion, of action. They are not involved in the commission of harm against you. Do you see this? Vicki: Yes, I do, very much. MONJORONSON: Does this answer the
question or the situation that the others have raised? Vicki: I believe so. Like I said, Monjoronson, I am a bit confused about it myself. There was a disconnect
between how you would be perceived, similar to a UFO and ET, and how they responded to that. I don’t know if
I am explaining this very well. MONJORONSON: I think I understand
what you are saying. If ETs were to land on the plaza
in front of the Capitol, they would be seen as hostile and the military would come against that object. If I were to do the same thing in awe and power in the same plaza, the military would also arrive
and perhaps strive to capture me and take me to laboratories and test me. This is the similar treatment
I was speaking of. Do you see? Why does Monjoronson not speak of Esu? Vicki: Yes, I do, and that does
then answer what I feel was the concern. (Thank you.) One of the questions asked has to do with a personality, “Esu.” Our friends in their group communicate with Esu. In the past when we’ve
talked about personalities with celestial beings, such as you, Monjoronson, they’ve been hesitant to define or qualify
[or validate] those personalities. I’m not sure how
you feel about this next question… I will just ask it. It says, “Why does
Monjoronson never mention Esu as a Planetary Prince on the material level? As he does well mention
Machiventa Melchizedek on the spiritual level, and Christ Michael as Sovereign of Nebadon. We think that it is important
that in the public work of transmission, the importance of cooperation is being pointed out, as well as the grid and the networking
between all the celestial VIP’s.” I have to say that Esu
is not referenced in The URANTIA Book, or in our movement,
and many people within our movement are confused as to the role and function of this being. Could you clarify all
of this for us? MONJORONSON: I would be glad to, and
thank you for the question. The Urantia Book is used as a primary reference as it is a dedicated document
that offers a great cosmology—though simplified—for your human understanding. Many names of other belief
systems are not mentioned in it, as a way to provide consistency. When we speak of spiritual
beings in these transcripts and these sessions, we use the consistent language of the reference source, as we have in the
past. Others could be as offended as this
group, as we do not mention those of the Hindu faith, or the Brahmans, or the Essenes, or other belief groups around the world. There are many names for Esu, and we do not use them. It is not to be taken
offensively that this omission occurs, as there would be dozens upon dozens of names from other religions and belief systems,
which would have a similar functional entity. It is important that
consistency be evident throughout these discussions, and that we have kept this as simply put as possible. There are many beings in the God’s pantheon of Gods and spiritual beings who are not mentioned
in the Urantia Book. Hundreds upon hundreds, if not thousands of orders of spiritual beings are totally omitted from
discussion. Only those which are relevant are
mentioned. Esu is an important character in
this work that we have. We know him by another name, and
we will not share that with you at this time, as it would perhaps cause dissent and disappointment by other groups. Keep to the same focus that you wish to expound and express love in your life, in your world
and in the universe, and truly all of these beings—Esu included—contribute to these ends. Do not magnify the differences between you, but that of similarities. You have so many worthy purposes to align with among yourselves. Do not take the difference
of names to find difference and argument. Vicki: I appreciate that advice. There was also a question related to Esu, which was, “Why does Monjoronson not stay in
Esu’s headquarters, and prefers a private domicile to live at?” I wondered if you wanted
to address that? MONJORONSON: I would be most happy
to. It is important in my incarnation,
that you feel at peace with me, that you feel at oneness with me, that you recognize the similarities, rather than the differences;
that you would approach the continuum of spiritual development in a natural and eager way, rather than seeing obvious differences. To live in grandeur would set myself apart from you and says immediately that there are differences
which cannot be overcome by yourself, ever. While living in a domicile
with you, you come to appreciate that there is an approach of the divine with you, in your daily life, that the holiness of
the divine is approachable, and that there is no separation, no cause of separation on the part of God or Divinity, to keep
us apart. We have far, far more
in common than differences. We wish you to appreciate
and understand that your spiritual development is not remote from you, that it is progressive. My coming [will be] as
a humble individual of your realm. Many of you are far too
in awe already of the divine to humbly accept that the divine rests in you. Many of you are in awe
that God wishes to speak to you, and therefore you do not engage God within you in conversation. Many of you are humbled
by the fact that you are approachable by God, that God can be in your presence, and so you withhold yourself. My presence in your domiciles will be one which tells you that, “Come on over and have
tea or coffee with us, enjoy a peaceful afternoon by the lake, beside the ocean, feel the breeze upon your face as I do, and
you will know that I am human, as you are human, that the divine in me is the same as the divine in you, though you must grow
into the boots that you wear, to walk the path that I walk.” You are told and shown,
and will be so, by myself repeatedly, that I am here; God is here; Christ Michael is here; Divinity is here, it abounds with
you and it is approachable. There is no separation
and I will do everything in my power to remove any thoughts of separation between you, myself, Machiventa, Christ Michael
and God. I will do everything in my power
to empower you to speak with me, to speak with Christ Michael, to speak with Machiventa, and to speak with God. Being in a magnificent residence would be something that would be quite natural to do; it would
be easy for me to assume that, and to have that created for me, or to live in one that already exists. Where is Esu’s palace, my friends? Find it and I will be
there. Go to your home and meditate, and
I will be there as God is there. Where are you most comfortable
to receive me? Surely it would be in your own home,
would it not?
Vicki: Thank you, Monjoronson;
that speaks volumes to me. You know, Monjoronson,
we are all very excited about the possibility of Melchizedek schools on our planet. This group has some questions
about this, and I will present these. “How will the teachers
for these schools be educated?” Will teachers of the
old system be accepted for teaching in the Melchizedek schools, and will there be special kinds of re-education for them by
the Melchizedeks? MONJORONSON: In many regards, the
infrastructure for the Melchizedek schools has already begun. You are learning the
way of light, the way of love, to amend your thinking to that of peace, of harmony, of lack of judgment—not judging,
not holding a bias or prejudice, or even opinion about others who are different. Those of you who aspire
to a life of peace, and who have the capacity to engage others, to persuade others, to engender optimism and motivation in
others, are already teachers. There will be no instantaneous
staffing of the Melchizedek schools. You are already in training
for this. My presence on your world will be
a confirmation that the schools have already begun. I will visit areas and
ask you to then formally organize a Melchizedek school, and Melchizedeks will already be on hand, as they are now. You recall that Sondjah
was a part of the local experiential co-creative design team. Sondjah is a Melchizedek
teacher, and in some regards that was a Melchizedek school. It was not a formal Melchizedek
school, but it was simply an experiment with a Melchizedek teacher, teaching mortals. Tremendous amounts of
experience and wisdom were learned from that process, that brief encounter with those mortals. So, too, we have invited
you to begin to establish co-creative design teams. You could as well, establish
a Melchizedek school, with a TR and a Melchizedek teacher, working through the TR. There truly is not much
difference, my friends, in the process of a co-creative design team, and a Melchizedek class. Schools organize by the
work of numerous Melchizedeks, teaching various classes and various courses. A co-creative design
team could be one of them. You could have a Melchizedek
class on social ethics and morality, on school building, of teaching, of child-rearing, and so on. The Melchizedek schools will have everything to do with social sustainability. We have urged you to engage these topics. Many of you are confused
and do not know how to start, but we urge you to simply start. You must begin by having
several who have a common intention, and someone who has a capacity to TR. We know that this is
a tremendous impediment across the world, as many of you do not know how to TR. [Note from transcriber: What follows is a discussion
centering on the conflict of interest of Daniel as a TR who brings through Monjoronson, who then promotes Daniel as a teacher
and workshop leader. In his 16 years as a TR, Daniel has
striven NOT to raise or become involved in any conflicts as this. Monjoronson understands
the conflict, but must contravene as there is a serious global need for workshops to teach others how to TR, which will be
essential in the early Melchizedek Schools.] MONJORONSON: It is difficult for this
one to bring through this news to you, as it compromises the integrity of the TR process for him. We have, with the assistance
of a special angelic teacher who has worked with him for several months, completed a program for teaching others how to TR
in a far more progressive and gentle manner than before. He [Daniel] is available
to teach this across the world, and waits for your invitation. We provide this information,
not as an accretion of aggrandizement to his ego, for that would surely thwart our efforts and sincerity in the humility of
our program, but of necessity to invite those who are capable, and who have demonstrated their capacity to teach. [Daniel: Vicki, this just totally
compromises myself. I just really feel put between a
rock and a hard place, here. What he’s trying
to say is that I’ve been invited to teach workshops in other countries. Gosh, it is just hard
for me to be self-promoting here. It compromises all the
integrity I have ever striven to establish with our audience. I really feel pressed
to the wall. Vicki: Talk to him about it;
ask him now. Tell him how you feel, and see what
he says. Daniel: Okay. (Short break.) I don’t know how
to handle this, or how to do this—it’s a real experience I’m having, with a sincerity of what Monjoronson
is talking about—I mean, who else in the world has ever done a co-creative design team, and had a Melchizedek like Sondjah
working with us, and then publish these results? No one that I know of. Vicki: Well, I think that’s
the problem, Daniel. You are at the apex of this pyramid
here, that is just beginning to grow, and there is a population of “one” of you. The sooner that this
can be resolved, the less heat that will be placed on you. That’s how it looks
to me. Ask Monjoronson—let’s
see what he has to say about this.] Daniel: I’m going to dialog
with him out loud. Monjoronson, this is
Daniel. What you are saying compromises sixteen
years of integrity that I have striven to build, in establishing myself as an uninterested bystander in the process, without
self-aggrandizement, without self-reference, without directing other people to myself, but to direct your work to the world,
to assist others in doing this. Yet, as I look out upon
the world and the history of the Urantia Book, Teaching Mission, and
Magisterial Mission, I have not seen anyone else across the world, who has worked so intimately with you and Christ Michael
and Machiventa and the Melchizedeks, to develop Melchizedek schools within the framework of co-creative design teams. I am stymied as a participant of yours, to have your messages come through me that promote me! It is just incongruous to me. Can you comment on that? MONJORONSON: The last thing we want
to do is compromise your integrity and never will we compromise your humility. You are needed to move
forward; the momentum has built; through you we have demonstrated that this process is possible, and that we now ask you to
move forward to a global scale. You have been called
to Belize next March, in 2011, to conduct a workshop there. We are also in the very
early stages of devising and developing workshops to be conducted in Norway and Sweden, through our associates and friends
there. You have, through your—who
you call “Triple A,”—the Angelic Administrative Assistant who has helped you rather assertively in developing
this program of teaching, which we now are asking you to carry forward. This is not a perfect
process, as you see. Yes, we are compromising your integrity
tremendously, but we ask you to do this as there is no capable TR in your vicinity through whom we can speak clearly and confidently,
[who] can dialog with me directly. We ask you to do this
with confidence, that we know what we are doing, and that you release the process. No, we are not going
to aggrandize you; no, we are not going to allow you to embellish your ego, but ask you to curtail any embellishments which
you may feel. We as well ask you to curtail any
sacrifices by withdrawing yourself from this program, to maintain your integrity, as that will express in a selfishness, which
is fairly intolerable to us at this time, as we have few resources of similar nature to use. Do you see our point? Daniel: Yes I do see this clearly. (Loud sigh.) Vicki: Daniel, can I comment? (Please.) We are going to be put
in some of these situations, which we may not be very comfortable with, which may cause us some difficulty. We’re going to be caught in the middle somewhat, and we’re going
to be caught in what appears to be compromising to other people. I guess what we are being
asked is to “buck up!” —it’s that
important! To withdraw would be harmful and
in many ways, would be much more of a selfish reaction. If I’m right, we
are being asked to exercise some real courage and strength right now. Am I correct? Daniel: Yes, you are correct. (Another heavy sigh.) It would be tremendously
selfish of me to withdraw from this process, but it would also appear as being selfish to others if I remained and to have
this work for my benefit. I guess, in the end it
would be best to let time and experience provide the proof in the outworking. Vicki: He’s asking you
to step forward courageously. Would you ask him if
that’s correct? Daniel: Yes, I will ask…
actually, you have already asked him. MONJORONSON: Yes, we move through
the resources that we have available. There is no other available
conduit for us to use at this time. Many others have in the
past stepped forward to be “used,” even to become self-aggrandizing, and we have used them nonetheless, as there
was no other way to do so. In this case, Daniel
is not self-aggrandizing, and he is a way for us to move forward. Our moving forward through
him does compromise his integrity as he sees it, though this is a “must” at this time. These large programs that Christ Michael has established will founder in the waves if we do
not move forward. It is essential that
as more people seek God within them, that they have a means and process to dialog with God, and eventually with us. The way forward to teach others how to TR, and to become active TR’s within co-creative
design teams, is through these Melchizedek schools as they become available to us. We do not want to be
put off by humility on the part of one who has the capacity to emplace the teaching procedures for this work. Let us move forward,
Daniel, and do not be withholding of yourself from this process. Accept that you may be
pointed at. You have received some finger pointing
in the past by those who have steadfastly pointed their fingers at you, [and accused you of] “making all of this up.” They will know in the future that this is not so, as they begin to see these schools being established
through those who have learned to TR, at which time you can retire if you wish. Until then, we ask you
to walk the path, and steadily so. Thank you. Vicki: Thank you for that, Monjoronson. Daniel, are you comfortable with that now? Daniel: Oh yes, this has just
been bugging me for years! I’ve always hoped
that someone would step up to the bar and do what I’m doing, but I haven’t seen anybody do it. Vicki: Until we get to the point
where people are trained to TR, there will still only be you who has the experience of facilitating and TRing co-creative
teams. Vicki: This is my question for
you, Monjoronson—it has to do with names. I know that you are referred
to by many different names on our planet. It would seem in the
human form, you would need one “tag,” so to speak, on our planet to avoid that kind of confusion. I understand that we call you Monjoronson, however it is not your actual name. Is that correct? (That’s correct.) I guess I’m wondering if it is an accurate assumption, that down the road here, you will
be known by one name, when you incarnate? MONJORONSON: When I walk upon your
earth, and I knock at that door, at that residence, and the homeowner answers the door, I will say, “I am ____,”
and then I will say my name. That will be the name
by which I will become known on your world, around the world. It will be at that time,
that all of those names which point to me, will be attributed to me. I will be the “Anointed
One;” I will be the “Messiah;” I will be all of those figures and those titles that religions have been
seeking and which have named this person, this entity, through their own language. I will be the accumulation
of all those names, and I will give clarity to all of them through my presence there. Does this answer your
question? Vicki: It does, Monjoronson. Thank you for that. I know it was somewhat
of a curiosity question, but it was one that was continually coming up in my mind. And just one other thing,
I’m wondering how your incarnation and your presence on our planet will affect our modes of communication with you. Will there still be a need for TRing? Will we still be communicating
through stillness? How will that be affected? MONJORONSON: Yes, those practices
will not stop. There will continue to be a need
for you to do that. Your connection is with the Creator
of the universe, a fragment of which is within you—each one of you. You will continue to
need to communicate with that fragment of God within you; you will continue to TR; you will continue to work in your Melchizedek
schools and your classes as though I were not there. My presence on your world
will give clarity and pull all of the fragmented parts into a wholeness and oneness, so that your individual beliefs and your
group beliefs will become far more effective and homogeneous. Vicki: Okay. First I want to thank you for being very candid with us, and helping us build bridges with our
brothers and sisters in other groups on our planet. And with that, unless
you have something else to share, I say this is the end of our session. MONJORONSON: I wish to close by saying,
find the commonalities among you that engage the belief of love and the oneness of the universe and the Creator. You will find that you have much to work for together, and that you will become far more effective
in union with others. The integration of all your fragmented
groups begins by the intention of finding oneness of belief among you. Thank you and good day. END |
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