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Monjoronson - History
of 5th Revelation - Early TM History - May 04, 2010 - Audio Session #99
http://www.tmarchives.com/transcript_frames.php?tid=5305
Teacher: Monjoronson
T/R: Daniel Raphael
Moderator: Philip
Subjects Discussed This Session
1 - Jesus Vs. Michael
2 - Dispensational Resurrection
3 - History of The Fifth Epochal Revelation
4 - Early Teaching
Mission History
May 04, 2010
Prayer: As we still ourselves we deepen into the presence of
the Creator and we call upon the Creator to fill us with It's light, surround us with It's light. We ask for the Infinite
Spirit to reveal Itself through the words of truth. We ask for clarity and we ask our guardians and guides to assist us in
this process and we give thanks.
Philip: Good morning Monjoronson, thank you for being in attendance.
Jesus Vs. Michael
Question
#1: When Michael fully regained His memories and inherent powers, at that point, did Jesus the man cease to function?
Monjoronson: Certainly not. Just as you come into
your own with the God presence within you, as you raise yourself in your spiritual growth and become more morontial, you do
not forget who you were and you do not forget the humility of how you came into this world and neither did the Son of God.
Thank you.
Dispensational Resurrection
Preamble: When our Master passed
to the next realm this signaled the end of one age and the beginning of the next one. This resulted in a dispensational resurrection
in which all the sleeping survivors were resurrected. These resurrected ones were then given a chance to opt for ascension
to the Father or choose annihilation.
Question #2:
Now that you have arrived and another age is at hand, is there to be another dispensational resurrection? In other words,
does your visit here to Urantia presage a new round of resurrections for all the sleeping survivors?
Monjoronson: Yes, when I come into physical form, this will begin
a new dispensational age. Thank you.
History of the Fifth
Epochal Revelation
Preamble: Monjoronson, in the past year of so I have written
a history which attempted to connect the various channeling episodes from the 19th century to the 20th century appearance
of the Fifth Epochal Revelation at Chicago. One who contributed to that writing received, from Christ Michael, the year the
First Revelatory Commission came into existence as 1898. The date by itself is not so important, but for a history, knowing
a starting point is a very useful thing.
Question #3:
Would you be so kind as to confirm this date or its correct date for us, and anything else concerning this starting point
you would like to tell us?
Monjoronson: I must
ask, whose starting date do you wish to go by, the one that is specific by yours or the one by which the revelatory commission
was organized and the various studies begun? You dates are accurate but they do not completely reflect the history of this
revelation through our efforts. The commission was organized long before that and the preparations made for the study and
the writing of transcripts on the spiritual side was greatly completed by the first meeting of your forum. Thank you.
Question #4: As I review the writing of this
history, I am struck by what seems to be the "suddenness" of these activities leaving England as a possible site to
establish a great revelation and resurfacing in America in the first years of the twentieth century. Can you help shed any
light on what appears to be the preparation of a limited-scope revelation in the '1870s' to an epochal scope revelation prepared
for around 1906? Any discussion in this area would be most helpful to us to understand what to us is a blur of obscure events.
Monjoronson: The mortal background for this development
began with preparations with Emmanuel Swedenborg much earlier. There developed many lines of evidence and developments from
him to others. It was not until after the mid '1800s' that several mortal efforts of revelation were begun. You must recall
those of Mary Eddy Baker and that of Joseph Smith among those as well. There were the Christian metaphysicians Charles and
Myrtle Fillmore to name a few more. There were many outworkings of this both in the American culture and the American Indian
culture. English revelation was not left behind but it was soon determined that this continent of the United States would
be most fortuitous to use as its future was being written at the time. It would become a foundation of much influence in the
world, therefore efforts were centered upon the residents who lived here. Thank you.
Question #5: It appears to this questioner because of the abruptness of the change,
there was an intervention perhaps from outside of the local universe to make this change in scope. Can you point to any particular
universe event in the executive branch or administrative branch, or even on Urantia itself, that led to changing to a whole
different way of staging an epochal revelation? It almost appears the whole universe got involved to start it up in the Chicago
area.
Monjoronson: Again this may appear
to have been a sudden appearance to you but it was very intentional, developmental, gradual, and evolutionary. The sudden
appearance in Chicago was coordinated by numerous events which you and your historians are unaware of and which I will not
share with you. The events of Chicago were central to the propagation of this revelation, those who were interested, those
who could legitimatize it at that time. It has been a great influence not to accept mediumship and this was influential in
legitimatizing it to the reading audience. The aspect of the universe participating in this was extended to Uversa and through
Nebadon, through Salvington.
Your world was deeply conflicted after the
resurrection and Pentecost and the immediate apprehension and quarantine and detention of the miscreants of the rebellion
followed. These actions were all coordinated at the same time as was the development of a new revelation. The Urantia Book
and the developments surrounding Chicago were only one of numerous revelations that were being developed around the world.
Many of those died from lack of interest and lack of being legitimatized. They were propagated in the minds of those who would
be seen as quite eccentric and those who were marginalized by their society. The efforts of Christ Michael and Machiventa
and the revelatory commission were numerous and what you see are the remainder of what are left. It is much as the process
of evolution of different species, you only see what is left, those which are successful. Thank you.
Question #6: You yourself Monjoronson, were
somehow present in the background of these early years of preparing the Fifth Epochal Revelation. While the need for revelation
was understood for Urantia to receive for centuries, was it always an epochal revelation that was going to be considered?
Did the inspection by Tabamantia and whatever he reported concerning Urantia play a large part to change what should be done
for Urantia?
Monjoronson: Again, you preconceive
an idea of what was ordained earlier had a major change of opinion and direction. There were many optional and contingent
plans that were made early on in the second millennium that were put on hold and many were put into action. [Additionally],
there was what you may consider to be the sudden appearance of plans and alternative plans. They were simply alternatives
that were put into action when other earlier plans failed or were not sufficient to be carried forward by the events of your
world. Thank you.
Early Teaching Mission History
Question #7: In preparing another
history, I have reviewed the transition of what would become the Teaching Mission from New Zealand to America. Without prejudicing
your answer by stating my interpretations of that transition, can you comment on what appears to be a case of the wonderful
coincidence of a virgin group of truth seekers finding Abraham and then the awful warfare their efforts walked into between
rival Urantia Book institutions in America just as New Zealand was helping transition their group experience to America?
Monjoronson: The beginnings of the Teaching Mission in this "virgin
group" as you call it, in New Zealand, was essential to establish its legitimacy and its forthright connection to Urantia
Book materials. This is irrefutable; this is something that exists and validates the work that began in New Zealand as legitimate
and directly related to Urantia Book materials, histories, and development. It cannot be separated, because it was never
meant to be separated; it was a difficulty in the publication of the Urantia Book that led to this separation. There was never
a cessation of revelation in the work of the Correcting Time of which the Urantia Book is a part as well as the Teaching Mission
and the Magisterial Mission are a part. . . . Thank you.
Question #8: Did this Urantia institutional warfare cause a door to close and shut out a large number
of book readers who would have embraced the Teaching Mission in this period?
Monjoronson: It did not close a door but it did leave many potential enthusiasts for further revelation
out in the dark. There are many who do not wish to be in conflict with established social groups. Your groups do not differ
socially from those which deal with political issues. They want to be accepted; they want to be in continuation, and therefore
they say nothing. They do not wish to move ahead; they stay with what is safe.
The
cause of cessation of forward movement as you note was due to a shifting of gears to another contingent plan. This takes time.
You have seen that within your world environment within the last ten years as major shifts and changes in your world causes
us to move from one plan to another that is more advantageous. Thank you for your question.
Question #9: Is any of this turmoil in the period being referred to here [late '1980s']
in any way associated with releasing tensions brought on by the very recent adjudication of the rebellion experienced on Urantia?
Does the physical world react strongly to major spiritual adjudications or maybe this was an exceptional event with obvious
reactions?
Monjoronson: This was an internal
development unrelated to the adjudication.
Philip:
That concludes the question/answer session. Are there any further comments you would care to make?
Monjoronson: Thank you. It is our wish to clarify all difficulties
that you have where we are responsible parties to your confusion. However, the vast majority of your confusion
rests with your own capacity and failure to discern alternative possibilities for the interpretation of historic events. This
[misunderstanding of historic events] has been an ongoing pattern of error in many peoples thinking, for they do not
weigh other options with the same clarity and the same fervent energy as they do for their own biases. . . .
Philip: Thank you Monjoronson, we deeply appreciate your being
here answering our queries. We also like to thank our T/R and all those involved in aiding the Monjoronson Mission.
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