Conversation with A Man Who Went to Mars Part Two
by Morgan Kochel
June 27, 2012
M: What was landing on Mars like?
C: Landing was awful! Very bumpy where we landed, but full of the right kinds of samples that they wanted. It was
weird -- after all the images, Mars is not really a mystery. We see so much of it on TV.
M: How long were you on the surface?
C: We were on the surface for about 65 hours, enough time to gather samples and collate gas makeup readings of the
atmosphere, and to explore a little bit. Radiation was always going to be an issue, so we had strict allocations of surface
time, then we had to return.
M: What did you see when you got out of the lander? Could you see Earth? Did you see any vegetation or liquid water?
C: No vegetation, no liquid water, and we didn't see Earth ‹ far too concerned with watching our step and making
sure we got the samples.
M: What did the sky look like from the surface?
C: There's only a thin atmosphere on Mars, so you see a thin veil of the outer atmosphere from the surface, like
a slight glowing red sky, but then blackness out into space. Again, like so much we see on TV. Very bizarre, but I felt like
I'd been there before, although I hadn't. Just familiarity.
M: Ok, now what did you do specifically?
C: We had a miniature bore hole machine that allowed us to drill into the core and collect samples down to a depth
three meters. These were stored in the lander under strict guidelines and kept in tubes so they wouldn't be contaminated on
the journey back. These were jettisoned in a separate module into Earth's atmosphere when we returned and were tracked by
Mission Control. We returned separately.
M: Very interesting! Thank you for those details. I appreciate this info on how you did your work. I can't even imagine
what being on a planet that far from Earth would be like. How were you sure you could get back? I know you trained, but still,
you were Very Far Away!
C: Yes, very scary knowing how far away from Earth you are, but like I said before, a combination of instinct, adrenalin,
and the thought of all that money takes over and keeps you going until you get the mission completed and are on the way home.
Hence, why when on Mars you don't tend to stargaze ‹ you just get on with the job and get out of there. You trust your
crew, your machine, and Mission Control. Nothing else matters. Like in NASCAR, you have a team you completely trust, and all
else is irrelevant. Maybe adrenalin kicks in, but also so does the desire to survive, so any unnecessary risks are not tolerated
on a mission of our type. Maybe on others, but not ours. Ask anyone who's been in space and they'll say the same thing. There's
no room for error and no second chances. No one I know would take those kinds of risks, and the CIA has the same mentality.
Do you know what the worst thing is about all of this is? Apart from you and one other contact of mine who is also
an agent, I can't talk to anyone about it. So here I am with this momentous achievement and no one can know! Whoever is listening
might be part of the team and who may undoubtedly be trying to catch me before I talk, although that's too late now. When
we were training, we were told we couldn't talk to anyone about this. Not family, not friends, no one, and now I know why.
Stupidly, I told my family that I was part of the space station program and got transferred to Europe. That was a mistake,
and a major lessoned learned about the lure of a big pay check!
M: I understand, however, I wouldn't personally consider that a "mistake"! Because of this story, you're giving the
public one more piece of the puzzle about what really goes on in the space program and what is being kept from us.
C: One thing about the surface on Mars: it felt unstable. There were minor earthquakes [marsquakes - more info: http://www.space.com/418-marsquakes-red-planet-rumble.html
] when we were there. Maybe that could explain what happened to the other missions? Of course, it could be a build up to something
more major, but we were only in a very small part of the planet, so who knows? And with past volcanic activity in evidence,
this may lead to problems in future mining missions. If these earthquakes are at the start of a cycle, then the issue could
become very problematic. Of course, there's no back up atmosphere for anyone to escape to in an emergency, so that could be
very dangerous. As I now know, these guys aren't that bothered about personal well being, but more about what this planet
may reap in terms of profits.
The other thing about Mars that is valuable from a scientific perspective is the climate. For example, if water is
present, could there be any clues to be found about our climate in future decades? Although distance from the sun is a factor,
there are still plenty of things we can learn. We saw no ET's, though. This should hopefully make people realize most of what
they are told about Mars is fake or simply untrue. The samples we brought back could be worth billions and billions, so a
few fake aliens are a brilliant diversion.
M: What, specifically, are you saying is untrue about Mars that you've heard? I've heard quite a bit from other whistleblowers
online, but nothing specifically about Martian aliens. I've heard about a base there, and I've heard of the jump room. I've
also heard of other people claiming to have been there.
C: I don't believe the jump room stuff is credible at all. I know we have more advanced tech in the military than
is known, but that just doesn't ring true with me, happily.
NASA also rubbished alien stories about Mars, as
well. They were keen to stress the planet was lifeless. Whether they knew about the financial potential of the planet, though,
is a different question and, of course, if what we know gets out into the public domain, a manned mission (which was seen
as political suicide in case of failure) now becomes a race to reap benefit. It will be interesting to see what official reaction,
if any, will come of this. Mars must be a multi-multi-billion-dollar planet, completely untouched and unclaimed.
Why do you think they never went back to the moon? There's no value in it. If the moon was full of precious metals,
etc., we would have been back many times. It's just not worth it. Also, as a side issue, the long-term implications of mining
it were unknown and could have proven disastrous to earth. Of course, we don't know the implications for mining Mars on a
mass scale, but we will find out in the coming decades as governments eventually catch up and find out what huge potential
it has in terms of its riches.
M: Hm, yes, quite possible! Ok, you said, "the long-term implications of mining it were unknown and could have proven
disastrous to earth." Can you explain how that might be?
C: There's virtually no atmosphere. Any by-products in gas form could escape into space. What implications will happen
as a consequence? Also, the mass of the planet will decrease. Will that have implications for the orbit Mars travels? The
moon's, as well? We don't know enough about the relationship between Mars and Earth. To start mining it for all it's worth
is dangerous as far as I'm concerned because we've still got a lot to learn before we dive in and start. Newton's third law
of physics [thermodynamics] says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And don't worry, I'll be fine
‹ finally blowing the lid on this will help protect me. They haven't found me yet!
M: How long do you think you need to stay on the run? Do you have any evidence that these guys are after you? (I
know it's probably a good assumption based on what you told me so far.)
C: I have a good idea of who is after me. There are only a handful of people on the planet who could pull this off
without being questioned and found out. This much ability requires a lot of power and the ability to corrupt at the highest
level. I will be on the run for a while. I reckon there will be fake contacts made with me to try to meet, but in Europe,
it's easy to disappear into the background. No real borders and plenty of contacts there should I need them; although, one
of them is about the only one I could trust at the moment. Don't forget there will also be a bounty on my head, and every
low-life with a gun will be interested. But those interested in finding me again offer no value or loyalty to those who help
them. You only have to look at my situation.
M: Ok, fair enough. How is your radiation sickness going?
C: Sickness is ok, controlled by medication, and luckily it's only mild. I'm sure the suits we used were created
to absorb radiation in small amounts so they could test us for tolerance and duration on the planet's surface. Don't forget
the data we brought back was costing billions, so all aspects of the mission had to contribute to an overall picture that
they could use to deliver a report about the viability of future missions. We were probably signing a death note when we signed
up; hindsight is a wonderful gift!
M: Very true! And did you bring anything at all back from Mars for yourself?
Like a souvenir rock or something?
C: No souvenirs. We were searched and made to pass solids in order to detect anything. Very strict about that.
M: And you saw no plant life or water at all?
C: No plant life or water. I know so many people talk about this, but we saw nothing like that. Not to say it doesn't
exist, but nothing we saw proved it. Of course, we were only there for a limited time, and we were only outside for short
periods due to temperature and radiation.
M: I appreciate that you're honest about not finding plant life while still acknowledging that it could be elsewhere
on the planet and you just didn't see them. Where exactly on the Martian surface did you land?
C: Check out Viking lander site as we were near there. The data returned previously dictated that was the best site.
M: If you had it to do over again, would you go? Was it worth it to you?
C: It was worth it to experience it. Would I again? Space travel like that is a younger man's game. The physical
strain when you hit your late thirties means that it takes a while to recover. But you know what? Now they know about the
potential fuel reserves on Mars, they can hit the gas a bit harder, I reckon, and maybe reduce journey time. We saw only a
tiny fraction of the surface, but the conditions would mean that anything capable of surviving there wouldn't be plant life
or life as we know it. God, I sound like Spock! If there IS any life, I would suggest it would be subterranean, as there is
protection. I would imagine given the planet's geological history, there are many caves there, but we didn't see any. There
are riots about fuel costs, so what Mars may bring is stability. But it will take many years to realize this, and I reckon
NASA will play catch up and assert its authority. Politically, space travel became defunct in the 80's in real terms, but
if a route to profit can be found, then watch the next big space race, but this time with more competitors.
M: Thank you very much for your story, Chad! I appreciate you taking the time to tell us this story. I hope you can
eventually find safety, and that your family knows you're well.
And there you have it! This was the end of our discussion about the Mars mission, but I have remained in touch with Chad.
At this point, I hope to be able to convince him to do a video or TV interview, but of course, there will be more than a few
obstacles to overcome, the main one being that he may currently be in some danger if he goes public. Furthermore, there is
always the barrier of peoples' understandable skepticism. As I said in the beginning, I cannot verify this story for anyone,
nor is my intent to convince anyone of its veracity. My goal is only to help him get his story heard, because if this story
IS true, the people of this planet are being lied to on a grand scale, and perhaps this will eventually help the UFO Disclosure
Movement. It's time for the lies to be uncovered, and time for the truth -- whatever that may be -- to be known once and for